Around the dinner table tonight, Avery told us that her teacher shared the extremely relevant opinion today that “Ms.” is a foolish construction. It was Avery’s turn to tell us one thing about her day. We were fairly swimming in complacent self-congratulation up to that point. Molly got an Elmo toddler bed from the 24/7 yard sale classifieds on Facebook and Lucy won the afternoon kindergarten spelling bee and Callie had all As in her progress report except an A minus in math for sloppy homework-turn-in.)
And then: “Ms.” is stupid. And you know what? I can see his point. Or, I almost think I kind of remember thinking or hearing something that sounded reasonably like that and almost good in a smug “we’re above political correctness/lameness” and “we prefer simplicity and the unwritten order of things” sort of way.
I don’t know the history of “Ms.” (I’m going to have to look it up now.” But this is what we came up with on the spot:
Is there an equivalent male title that denotes a man’s marital status? Why?
Why do we need to denote a woman’s marital status but not a man’s?
Is there a reason people need to know whether a woman is married or not?
Are there or were there things a woman could not do if she were married? (Like teach school a century ago, or own property at different times in history or retain custody of her children or have the right to not be raped or beaten by her husband?)
Is there a good reason for society to know if a woman is married or not in the sort of situations where a title is used?
Then –
If it is illegal for a prospective employer to ask an applicant if they are married or not, is there a way for a woman to retain her legal right to that privacy if she must title herself either “Miss” or “Mrs.”?
And then –
What about, I asked her (skimming over the littler ones’ hears, I hope) the rape case in California where the state appeals court ruled that a man cannot be charged with rape if he rapes a sleeping woman while impersonating her boyfriend. It is only rape, so the archaic law goes, if he is impersonating her husband.
Is it fair if the same action with the same intent by a man is judged differently by the law based on the marital status of the victim?
No, no it is not.
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Almost every day, it seems, I reach the breaking point. That’s it. I’m done. I wash my hands of this misogynistic, crappy world. I’m not happy that my blog has turned in to feminism and the church* all the time blog, but it’s not like I blog every day, any way. But I could, and every day I could write more about how this is just so not the way things should be. So not.
So not.
*I know school is different from church, but sometimes they’re the same in small town Utah. Avery’s teacher said last month that the women planning to wear pants should be worried about not following the prophet. And he is an old family friend of my grandparents, and Avery happens to really, really like him, as do we, most of the time. But she wore pants that day to church so I think she can like him and stay in his class and learn a lot from him while not agreeing with everything, and I told her to tell him she’s sorry he doesn’t understand these things but he’s probably just suffering from White Male Privilege.


I miss family but I enjoy the reminders via this blog of church intertwined with all other aspects of school/culture. The whole pants to church thing was viewed differently here–for me anyway because so many people here wear what they want and had no idea about the “statement” it made that particular day.
Anywho…that case btw…isn’t what it appears through facebook forwards. The facts and rulings don’t tell the story. Apparently things have to go just so this go ’round to get the law changed upon an appeal. There is a reason behind the madness of how that rape case went down…and will eventually change the law. And yes, he will be convicted. It was explained to me by a lawyer (outside our family). Anyway, its a sidenote, but worth knowing for people who get discouraged about things they find in the news….which often errs on the side of sensationalism for the sake of going viral…rather than the big picture truth of what will happen long term.
Oh, and no job app worth its salt has any place to mark Ms. Mrs. or anything else to give away marital status or even gender these days. The only place I still see those is magazine subscriptions. If you’ve encountered a job app that gives that as an option bookmark it and send it because someone has a gender discrimination case ready to roll. Just kidding.
Shannon Reply:
January 11th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Thanks, Bobi. Yes, I agree that media definitely sensationalizes things, and that this was just an archaic law still on the books.
On the Ms. thing — I wanted my daughter to know why it really is important. Or could be, or used to be. I know this post kinda went “and then we all end up homeless in a cardboard box under a bridge and die” worst case scenario, so yeah. I should chill.