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		<title>By: Cousin Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/06/have-we-met-before/comment-page-1/#comment-8997</link>
		<dc:creator>Cousin Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Jane, thanks for the post.  I read a lot of your posts but I don&#039;t have much time to reply to them.  Not really because I&#039;m too busy, but because I&#039;m too lazy.  It occurs to me that in spite of my many (and counting, *sigh*) years of education, almost of all of what my kids know was taught to them by their mother.  I&#039;m occasionally consulted about the finer points of grammar or deep science, which makes me feel smart sometimes.  But when my kids are discussing books and math and gospel doctrine that is way above their peers&#039; heads, the credit goes entirely to my wife.

One quick comment about talking about kids accomplishments in the setting of a family reunion.  I suspect that the daughters&#039; accomplishments as wives and mothers isn&#039;t mentioned simply because it isn&#039;t easily differentiated from others&#039; accomplishments as wives and mothers.  It&#039;s easy and interesting for parents to list their sons&#039; careers simply because they&#039;re all different.  If this was a big family consisting entirely of high-powered lawyers I suspect we wouldn&#039;t spend much time talking about the mens&#039; careers.  So mothers and wives &quot;show off&quot; their career by highlighting their children&#039;s accomplishments, which they obviously helped bring about.

As an aside, Jane, I miss you a lot.  I wish I could have been at the reunion, but my @#$%!! career, which is sucking from me the will to live, wouldn&#039;t allow it.  I&#039;m glad you&#039;re writing a blog because you were always one of my favorite first twenty cousins.  I don&#039;t even know the names or family affiliations of the rest of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Jane, thanks for the post.  I read a lot of your posts but I don&#8217;t have much time to reply to them.  Not really because I&#8217;m too busy, but because I&#8217;m too lazy.  It occurs to me that in spite of my many (and counting, *sigh*) years of education, almost of all of what my kids know was taught to them by their mother.  I&#8217;m occasionally consulted about the finer points of grammar or deep science, which makes me feel smart sometimes.  But when my kids are discussing books and math and gospel doctrine that is way above their peers&#8217; heads, the credit goes entirely to my wife.</p>
<p>One quick comment about talking about kids accomplishments in the setting of a family reunion.  I suspect that the daughters&#8217; accomplishments as wives and mothers isn&#8217;t mentioned simply because it isn&#8217;t easily differentiated from others&#8217; accomplishments as wives and mothers.  It&#8217;s easy and interesting for parents to list their sons&#8217; careers simply because they&#8217;re all different.  If this was a big family consisting entirely of high-powered lawyers I suspect we wouldn&#8217;t spend much time talking about the mens&#8217; careers.  So mothers and wives &#8220;show off&#8221; their career by highlighting their children&#8217;s accomplishments, which they obviously helped bring about.</p>
<p>As an aside, Jane, I miss you a lot.  I wish I could have been at the reunion, but my @#$%!! career, which is sucking from me the will to live, wouldn&#8217;t allow it.  I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re writing a blog because you were always one of my favorite first twenty cousins.  I don&#8217;t even know the names or family affiliations of the rest of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments! Esp Kikibibi and Nancy.

I was touched that my dad made a point to recognize the mothers. I don&#039;t want to be whiny and all &quot;Hey, what about me?&quot; But I confess that sometimes I feel that way. How fun it would be to be Sidney Bristow from Alias! 

My own sweet mother didn&#039;t graduate from college. She got married at 17 after graduating from HS early, and then she attended BYU for awhile before stopping to raise me. I was born when she was 18 (almost 19) years old. And she is smart and strong and talented and creative, and FABULOUS. And she puts her family first, always. 

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Also, the family reunion was great. I&#039;m impressed by my cousins, male and female. I wanted to talk about my cousin who has 5 (6?) small kids now, who ran a marathon between her 2nd and 3rd kids, who are 18 months apart in age. She&#039;s amazing! And my french-horn-playing cousin with 3 kids under age 4. 

I know we&#039;re all doing what we should, and I know our kids deserve our attention, and that (as Kikibibi said) we are happier doing this than we would be if we pursued other things at this time, but sometimes I get cranky. Thanks for putting up with my crankiness on the blog! (and understanding it in the spirit it was meant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments! Esp Kikibibi and Nancy.</p>
<p>I was touched that my dad made a point to recognize the mothers. I don&#8217;t want to be whiny and all &#8220;Hey, what about me?&#8221; But I confess that sometimes I feel that way. How fun it would be to be Sidney Bristow from Alias! </p>
<p>My own sweet mother didn&#8217;t graduate from college. She got married at 17 after graduating from HS early, and then she attended BYU for awhile before stopping to raise me. I was born when she was 18 (almost 19) years old. And she is smart and strong and talented and creative, and FABULOUS. And she puts her family first, always. </p>
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<p>Also, the family reunion was great. I&#8217;m impressed by my cousins, male and female. I wanted to talk about my cousin who has 5 (6?) small kids now, who ran a marathon between her 2nd and 3rd kids, who are 18 months apart in age. She&#8217;s amazing! And my french-horn-playing cousin with 3 kids under age 4. </p>
<p>I know we&#8217;re all doing what we should, and I know our kids deserve our attention, and that (as Kikibibi said) we are happier doing this than we would be if we pursued other things at this time, but sometimes I get cranky. Thanks for putting up with my crankiness on the blog! (and understanding it in the spirit it was meant).</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s just a little misunderstanding here--all of Jane&#039;s married girl-cousins and cousins-in-law are 1)college graduates and 2)stay-at-home mothers, in some cases, MOMs (Mothers of Many).  A couple do work part-time (a nurse, a social worker, etc.).  The engineer or the (dare I whisper it?) ------- or even the computer geek may have jobs that are conversation worthy, but you notice that it&#039;s the mothers who hold the families together.  The fact that we assume the importance of the mother role and that we take it for granted does not mean we&#039;re somehow less proud of our daughters--that assumption is paired with our assumption that they are all smart enough to be worth educating.  They are, after all, going to raise and educate the next generation.  Notice also, please, that Jane&#039;s aunts are also college educated, have raised families, and several are professionally employed now (in that order, incidentally).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s just a little misunderstanding here&#8211;all of Jane&#8217;s married girl-cousins and cousins-in-law are 1)college graduates and 2)stay-at-home mothers, in some cases, MOMs (Mothers of Many).  A couple do work part-time (a nurse, a social worker, etc.).  The engineer or the (dare I whisper it?) &#8212;&#8212;- or even the computer geek may have jobs that are conversation worthy, but you notice that it&#8217;s the mothers who hold the families together.  The fact that we assume the importance of the mother role and that we take it for granted does not mean we&#8217;re somehow less proud of our daughters&#8211;that assumption is paired with our assumption that they are all smart enough to be worth educating.  They are, after all, going to raise and educate the next generation.  Notice also, please, that Jane&#8217;s aunts are also college educated, have raised families, and several are professionally employed now (in that order, incidentally).</p>
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		<title>By: kikibibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kikibibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I don&#039;t think I ever met a Mormon in my whole life, and now all the bloggers I like best are Mormons! I don&#039;t know if that means I&#039;m drawn to Mormon writers or if Mormon mamas are just the best bloggers (or perhaps the most prolific!)!

Anyway Jane - Mormon or not - I admire you so greatly for raising your kids!  My kids are now 12 and 16, and I have just reached a place in my head/heart where I&#039;m cool with NOT having the high-powered, super cool, I&#039;m-all-that career.  At age 26, I said that in 10 years I&#039;d be a director of a publicly-traded company, and by gum at 36 I was!  And I was miserable, and I didn&#039;t see my kids, and ahhh my poor husband - I cringe to think about what I must&#039;ve been like!  My daughter is now in 7th grade, the same grade my son was at the height of my craziness.  She has some of the same teachers he had, and I don&#039;t even remember meeting these people, let alone actually discuss my son&#039;s progress with them!   Oh how I wish I would have done things differently!   I am getting back on track, mostly on track, now, and no one seems worse for wear, thank goodness.  But Jane... don&#039;t you change a thing just because some of those cousins are making other choices.  YOU HAVE A HIGHER calling!! and you are achieving it.  Keep on keeping on girl!  And keep doing &quot;the blog.&quot;   I love it!  kk

p.s. Sounds like your dad is pretty dang proud of you too!

kikibibis last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://roundoaktablev2.blogspot.com/2008/08/athletic-supporters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Athletic Supporters!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I don&#8217;t think I ever met a Mormon in my whole life, and now all the bloggers I like best are Mormons! I don&#8217;t know if that means I&#8217;m drawn to Mormon writers or if Mormon mamas are just the best bloggers (or perhaps the most prolific!)!</p>
<p>Anyway Jane &#8211; Mormon or not &#8211; I admire you so greatly for raising your kids!  My kids are now 12 and 16, and I have just reached a place in my head/heart where I&#8217;m cool with NOT having the high-powered, super cool, I&#8217;m-all-that career.  At age 26, I said that in 10 years I&#8217;d be a director of a publicly-traded company, and by gum at 36 I was!  And I was miserable, and I didn&#8217;t see my kids, and ahhh my poor husband &#8211; I cringe to think about what I must&#8217;ve been like!  My daughter is now in 7th grade, the same grade my son was at the height of my craziness.  She has some of the same teachers he had, and I don&#8217;t even remember meeting these people, let alone actually discuss my son&#8217;s progress with them!   Oh how I wish I would have done things differently!   I am getting back on track, mostly on track, now, and no one seems worse for wear, thank goodness.  But Jane&#8230; don&#8217;t you change a thing just because some of those cousins are making other choices.  YOU HAVE A HIGHER calling!! and you are achieving it.  Keep on keeping on girl!  And keep doing &#8220;the blog.&#8221;   I love it!  kk</p>
<p>p.s. Sounds like your dad is pretty dang proud of you too!</p>
<p>kikibibis last blog post..<a href="http://roundoaktablev2.blogspot.com/2008/08/athletic-supporters.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/roundoaktablev2.blogspot.com');">Athletic Supporters!</a></p>
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		<title>By: the mama bird diaries</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/06/have-we-met-before/comment-page-1/#comment-8875</link>
		<dc:creator>the mama bird diaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That is some reunion. That first photo is the cutest thing EVER.

the mama bird diariess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mamabirddiaries.com/?p=1500&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post convention withdrawal&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That is some reunion. That first photo is the cutest thing EVER.</p>
<p>the mama bird diariess last blog post..<a href="http://www.mamabirddiaries.com/?p=1500" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.mamabirddiaries.com');">post convention withdrawal</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE family reunions, even with all the headaches that come with them!  My Father-in-law is a convert and his family is rather exciting to be around, if you know what I mean.  I think it is a great time for my kids to see people that don&#039;t live their lives the same way we do and also learn to love people with differences.  Great lessons at family gatherings.

Erins last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dellerupdate.blogspot.com/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s wrong with this picture?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE family reunions, even with all the headaches that come with them!  My Father-in-law is a convert and his family is rather exciting to be around, if you know what I mean.  I think it is a great time for my kids to see people that don&#8217;t live their lives the same way we do and also learn to love people with differences.  Great lessons at family gatherings.</p>
<p>Erins last blog post..<a href="http://dellerupdate.blogspot.com/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/dellerupdate.blogspot.com');">What&#8217;s wrong with this picture?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha!  We have a reunion in about a month (My paternal grandmother&#039;s parent&#039;s children and offspring).  There will be tons of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, double 2nds.  Then it&#039;ll get really complicated because there are 2 branches of the family tree that didn&#039;t quite split...if you know what I mean.

And I&#039;ll only know about 10% of who these people are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha!  We have a reunion in about a month (My paternal grandmother&#8217;s parent&#8217;s children and offspring).  There will be tons of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, double 2nds.  Then it&#8217;ll get really complicated because there are 2 branches of the family tree that didn&#8217;t quite split&#8230;if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll only know about 10% of who these people are!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great pictures!</description>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/06/have-we-met-before/comment-page-1/#comment-8697</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in a small family with no extended family near me. I dreamed, wished, hoped for a large family.  Then, I married my husband. David&#039;s mother is one of 8 children, her father is one of 9 children.  Everybody lives within 30 minutes of each other and a weekend together looks like the gathering of a small European nation.  Now my Christmas card list is filled with names and addresses of people whom I barely know. I love it though and I feel so blessed for having married into such a great family. (No, we&#039;re not Mormon, we&#039;re just southern).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in a small family with no extended family near me. I dreamed, wished, hoped for a large family.  Then, I married my husband. David&#8217;s mother is one of 8 children, her father is one of 9 children.  Everybody lives within 30 minutes of each other and a weekend together looks like the gathering of a small European nation.  Now my Christmas card list is filled with names and addresses of people whom I barely know. I love it though and I feel so blessed for having married into such a great family. (No, we&#8217;re not Mormon, we&#8217;re just southern).</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found you by bloghopping.  Love this post.  Why can we never seem to be happy and content?  We always try to top each other.  I have even had dear friends that I have had to avoid for months at a time because of their competitiveness about their kids.  You do the blog well.

Debbies last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://suburbsanity.blogspot.com/2008/09/some-ants-angelina-jolie-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some ants, Angelina Jolie, and flibbertigibbet&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found you by bloghopping.  Love this post.  Why can we never seem to be happy and content?  We always try to top each other.  I have even had dear friends that I have had to avoid for months at a time because of their competitiveness about their kids.  You do the blog well.</p>
<p>Debbies last blog post..<a href="http://suburbsanity.blogspot.com/2008/09/some-ants-angelina-jolie-and.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/suburbsanity.blogspot.com');">Some ants, Angelina Jolie, and flibbertigibbet</a></p>
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