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sylwia

Life’s just too complicated for me to adopt a Calvinistic worldview where good is rewarded and bad punished (in this life, immediately, etc).

Which is not to say that I don’t think stay-at-home moms are important and have immense power to influence for good. They dang well better be — or I am wasting my time here.

the mama bird diaries — I’m not sure I think it’s fair to consider her views anti-woman when so many women seem to like her. Are those women also anti-woman?

But you’re probably right about it being an illusion. It’s just such a pretty, pretty illusion.

When I wrote the title and first line of this post, I honestly didn’t know if I wanted to write it sarcastically or not. Because of course no one (male or female) can have it all. But I confess freely that I was utterly swept off my feet by Sarah Palin’s speech, and I cried a little inside that I’d given up (seemingly all) my ambitions when I got married and started having kids.

No answers here — except I really would like to be five again and play under her desk.

Thanks for the comments!

Let me recap. I think that Sarah Palin gives the illusion that women can do it all. But no one (men or women) can do it all. The more time one is at the office, the less time he or she is with their kids. That’s the reality of life. Sarah palin delivers a great speech and has beautiful children. But I find her very conservative views incredibly anti-woman. She doesn’t represent me in any way and I would never support her.

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Adam & Eve–Maybe they didn’t have the whole murder discussion, but its pretty safe to safe that Cain knew the gospel.
Jacob’s sons, at least 10 of them: the sins are multitude, plotting to kill their brother, selling him instead, etc. And then there’s Judah who refused to follow the correct tradition for his daughter-in-law, Tamar and then she finally disquised herself as lady of the night so that she could have the children she was promised. Judah must have been known to visit harlots in the past.
I could keep listing families in the Bible, but I’m going to jump to the Book of Mormon. Lehi, the Prophet, and his wife, Sariah, (surely a SAHM) had two sons that completely fell away, despite their best teaching.
Then there’s King Mosiah and his rebellious sons in cahoots with Alma the Younger, actively fighting against the church. That’s pretty bad. Not all parents’ prayers about their kids inactivity or whatever are answered like Alma’s were. And then Alma the younger’s own son, can’t remember his name, chases after a harlot while he’s on a mission. Do we assume the parents were bad or that the mother is to blame?
And what about our day? Remember President Benson? His son, Steve, left the church and has been pretty anti for many years. Or what about Hugh Nibley’s daughter, Martha Beck? She left the church and is now living in a lesbian relationship?

Again, do we say that they are bad parents? I just don’t think that we can or should be the ones to judge that.

As far as this relating to Sarah Palin, I think she is a good parent because she and her family are working together to face the consequences of her daughter’s choice and build a future.Palin easily could have paid for an abortion for her daughter and hid the mistake. But she didn’t. Did her work outside the home contribute to her daughter’s choice? I don’t know as the only people who know that aren’t discussing it.

I feel strongly that making a snap decision is very judgmental when we have no business or even the adequate knowledge of the unique details of the situation to even qualify us for that judgment.

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I know because this happened to my family. I grew up in a LDS home. We read scriptures every morning as a family at 6 a.m. My dad is a worthy priesthood holder and a good man. My mom stayed at home, even when my dad’s business nearly went under. We had Family Home Evening every Monday. Gospel topics were a very important part of our daily lives. My parents lived what they preached. We attended church as a family. No one has worked harder than my parents to raise good kids. They’ve wept over us, prayed for us, taught us, etc.
But our family has our share of troubles. Last year my sister became pregnant out of wedlock. My sister is a good girl, but she made bad choices and she knew her choices were wrong.
So did my parents fail? According to the two previous comments, yes. But I don’t think they did. I know they didn’t. Children will make choices and there are times when they make the wrong choices. I credit my parents with teaching about the atonement deeply because when my sister faced the reality of what she chose, she did the right thing. And she is doing the right thing, repenting and working with her (now) husband so they can provide a good home for their baby.

We all do the best for our families. I think Sarah Palin is an outstanding mother and those who question her mothering are not being fair. Sarah Palin is not in this parenting business alone, but will have her husband at home, caring for her family.

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Yes, I’m sure women can have it all…but their children can’t. I may not have it all, but my kids do.

Jane, you may want to look to the example of your grandparents, they had 10 kids, and their kids had it all (hardworking dad, stay at home mom, religion). They all turned out to be wonderful human beings. My mother in law had 8 kids, and she stayed at home in spite of being poor much of her life, and all of her kids turned out practically perfect. This is not typical. Josh had to write a paper for a psychiatry rotation about all of the descendants of his grand parents. He had to note how many were in jail/prison, drug addicts, alcoholics, divorced, etc. Out of about 100 people, only a two were divorced and only one had been to jail, and only one smoked. The teacher was dumbfounded. He had never heard of such a large family with so few problems.

Stay at home moms are a large part of the equasion for a sucessful family. No Jane, you dont wish you were 17 and pregant with the child of your looser boyfriend, no matter what your mom did for work…

sylwia

And she didn’t wing her speech. The teleprompter may have sped up or slowed down beyond her words, but she did not wing it.

I have no idea what was said, and I’m going to have to spend the better part of today finding a way to see/hear it.

Anyways, from what I know, Palin seems great. I don’t have specific political affiliations, and on some issues I agree with her. There is just the one biggie… I can’t imagine living in a world where I don’t have the “right to choose”.

I feel like she is a woman who really speaks for me, as a woman, mother, American, small-town girl, and a hard worker. She is humble and has humble origins. She doesn’t have an Ivy League education. She doesn’t come from a privileged wealthy background. She cares about her country and wants to really make a difference.

Go SARAH PALIN!

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Sarah Palin and Motherhood

She can pull off biting wit directed at her opponents with a mesmerizing smile. She doesn’t get angry or shrill or flustered, she just pointed out what the difference in the campaigns are and what she personally plans to do to keep our country strong. I love her!

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