<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Can a Stay-at-Home Mom be Pro-Palin? *Updated*</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:30:28 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: cristinad</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-30953</link>
		<dc:creator>cristinad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 06:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-30953</guid>
		<description>Join our society that will teach you how to make extra cash and build a six-figure a month business on the internet.

 If you want to make money online,  join the society before it&#039;s too late.

http://www.mom-gets-rich-now.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join our society that will teach you how to make extra cash and build a six-figure a month business on the internet.</p>
<p> If you want to make money online,  join the society before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mom-gets-rich-now.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.mom-gets-rich-now.com');">http://www.mom-gets-rich-now.com/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-16796</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-16796</guid>
		<description>Dear Jane,
I happened upon your opinion/writing by searching politics and stay-at-home moms. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the amount of thought behind your words and ideas that you shared. I am very liberal, and have different views than you generally, but we are in agreement about Palin and her decision to leave your children to work in government. (Especially when they are young)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jane,<br />
I happened upon your opinion/writing by searching politics and stay-at-home moms. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the amount of thought behind your words and ideas that you shared. I am very liberal, and have different views than you generally, but we are in agreement about Palin and her decision to leave your children to work in government. (Especially when they are young)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-13775</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-13775</guid>
		<description>Quite frankly, this late in the game, I gotta say that there&#039;s not a snowball&#039;s chance in hades that I&#039;d vote for the Obama/Biden ticket.

Why?  I&#039;m a stay at home mother, and Obama&#039;s Socialist and economic plans for this country will prevent my family from being able to have one parent stay at home.

Obama&#039;s connections and history point to the fact that he&#039;s not worried at all about white America.  According to Black Liberation Theology&#039;s &quot;pastors&quot;, white people get what they deserve.  You heard the latest clip of Barack telling the blue collar plumber who asked about his taxes being raised that Barack planned on spreading the wealth. . .  made no apologies for his Socialist plans.  SCARY.

The middle class will not grow as he says.  It&#039;s just that the middle class will become lower class with all the other lower class so that we&#039;re all the same. . .  except the rich liberal academic elite.  Wake up America.

And I worry about the option to Homeschool.  Obama is being influenced by radical philosophies that tend toward everybody being homogenous and having the state administer education to all children &quot;for fairness&quot;.

If Obama and the Democrats win this election, stay-at-home-mothers (or fathers)/one income households that are barely scraping by now will be forced to put their children in state-sponsored schools while both parents go out to work to carry the burden of not only the most needy. . .  but the MOST LAZY.

That&#039;s a whole nother story I could tell you about what I observed when I was in the hospital for 7 weeks pregnant with twins.  There are a lot of lazy people draining our system and being carried on the backs of the hardworking Americans.

McCain/Palin ticket is our best hope.  We need to kick those corrupted Democrats out of our government.  What we&#039;ve witnessed the past 8 years is propaganda to make the American people believe we are an evil country, deserve what we get, that Bush is to blame. . .  nevermind looking at the corruption with Obama, Pelosi, Barney Frank, ACORN, etc.  It&#039;s a debacle.

Emily

A vote for Obama is a vote to kill your child&#039;s ultimate potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly, this late in the game, I gotta say that there&#8217;s not a snowball&#8217;s chance in hades that I&#8217;d vote for the Obama/Biden ticket.</p>
<p>Why?  I&#8217;m a stay at home mother, and Obama&#8217;s Socialist and economic plans for this country will prevent my family from being able to have one parent stay at home.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s connections and history point to the fact that he&#8217;s not worried at all about white America.  According to Black Liberation Theology&#8217;s &#8220;pastors&#8221;, white people get what they deserve.  You heard the latest clip of Barack telling the blue collar plumber who asked about his taxes being raised that Barack planned on spreading the wealth. . .  made no apologies for his Socialist plans.  SCARY.</p>
<p>The middle class will not grow as he says.  It&#8217;s just that the middle class will become lower class with all the other lower class so that we&#8217;re all the same. . .  except the rich liberal academic elite.  Wake up America.</p>
<p>And I worry about the option to Homeschool.  Obama is being influenced by radical philosophies that tend toward everybody being homogenous and having the state administer education to all children &#8220;for fairness&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Obama and the Democrats win this election, stay-at-home-mothers (or fathers)/one income households that are barely scraping by now will be forced to put their children in state-sponsored schools while both parents go out to work to carry the burden of not only the most needy. . .  but the MOST LAZY.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a whole nother story I could tell you about what I observed when I was in the hospital for 7 weeks pregnant with twins.  There are a lot of lazy people draining our system and being carried on the backs of the hardworking Americans.</p>
<p>McCain/Palin ticket is our best hope.  We need to kick those corrupted Democrats out of our government.  What we&#8217;ve witnessed the past 8 years is propaganda to make the American people believe we are an evil country, deserve what we get, that Bush is to blame. . .  nevermind looking at the corruption with Obama, Pelosi, Barney Frank, ACORN, etc.  It&#8217;s a debacle.</p>
<p>Emily</p>
<p>A vote for Obama is a vote to kill your child&#8217;s ultimate potential.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Presidential Election Round-Up, or What Women Really Think About Sarah Palin &#124; Kelby Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-9789</link>
		<dc:creator>Presidential Election Round-Up, or What Women Really Think About Sarah Palin &#124; Kelby Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-9789</guid>
		<description>[...] Jane @ What About Mom on Call for Political Link Love SubmissionsCathy Larkin on BlogHer Pity Party Contest Do OverCathy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jane @ What About Mom on Call for Political Link Love SubmissionsCathy Larkin on BlogHer Pity Party Contest Do OverCathy [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: What About Mom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sarah Palin at the RNC &#8212; Works for Me!</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-9009</link>
		<dc:creator>What About Mom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sarah Palin at the RNC &#8212; Works for Me!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-9009</guid>
		<description>[...] Can a Stay-at-Home Mom be Pro-Palin? *Updated* &#187; Have we met [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Can a Stay-at-Home Mom be Pro-Palin? *Updated* &raquo; Have we met [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-8995</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8995</guid>
		<description>The only thing about not wanting to vote for a candidate until her kids are at least school age is that for a person to be considered for that kind of candidacy at any age, they probably have been anxiously engaged in work for many years before that, so their ideals and who they are as a person and them not focusing on their young kids wouldn&#039;t have changed, right? 

It&#039;s just that we wouldn&#039;t have to be confronted with reminders about it on a daily basis.

This is a stretch, but it reminds me of a hypocrisy that has always bugged me. My dad is a doctor, and growing my many of my friends also had fathers who were doctors. So, at church, we&#039;d be encouraged to keep the Sabbath day holy, but people would always want to list the exceptions, like doctors -- of course they have to work on Sundays otherwise people would die.

Well, what about the janitors and cafeteria workers at the hospital? They have to work too, or people might die, but we don&#039;t value their professions enough to remember them in our list of exceptions. 

Probably not a great analogy, but for what it&#039;s worth . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing about not wanting to vote for a candidate until her kids are at least school age is that for a person to be considered for that kind of candidacy at any age, they probably have been anxiously engaged in work for many years before that, so their ideals and who they are as a person and them not focusing on their young kids wouldn&#8217;t have changed, right? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that we wouldn&#8217;t have to be confronted with reminders about it on a daily basis.</p>
<p>This is a stretch, but it reminds me of a hypocrisy that has always bugged me. My dad is a doctor, and growing my many of my friends also had fathers who were doctors. So, at church, we&#8217;d be encouraged to keep the Sabbath day holy, but people would always want to list the exceptions, like doctors &#8212; of course they have to work on Sundays otherwise people would die.</p>
<p>Well, what about the janitors and cafeteria workers at the hospital? They have to work too, or people might die, but we don&#8217;t value their professions enough to remember them in our list of exceptions. </p>
<p>Probably not a great analogy, but for what it&#8217;s worth . . .</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lauren Horsley</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-8951</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Horsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8951</guid>
		<description>I gotta say, Sylvvia comments are strongly convincing for me.  As much as I really like Sarah Palin as a candidate, I wish she would&#039;ve waited to enter the political arena at least until her children were school-age.  There is simply no arguement to the fact that having a parent at home during the formative years of 0-5 is the best foundation for a child.
That being said, I still plan to vote for her in the fall.  Because I am a firm McCain supporter.  And while I don&#039;t like the example that Palin is setting for young families, she is not my main concern.  McCain&#039;s beliefs vs. Obama&#039;s is my focus.  I&#039;m with nedwilliams on this one - even if Palin were to take McCain&#039;s place (though I still the likelihood of this is low) I feel she would, at that time, have sufficient experience to take the wheel for a bit.  I certainly don&#039;t have enough grievances with her to switch my vote, given the alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say, Sylvvia comments are strongly convincing for me.  As much as I really like Sarah Palin as a candidate, I wish she would&#8217;ve waited to enter the political arena at least until her children were school-age.  There is simply no arguement to the fact that having a parent at home during the formative years of 0-5 is the best foundation for a child.<br />
That being said, I still plan to vote for her in the fall.  Because I am a firm McCain supporter.  And while I don&#8217;t like the example that Palin is setting for young families, she is not my main concern.  McCain&#8217;s beliefs vs. Obama&#8217;s is my focus.  I&#8217;m with nedwilliams on this one &#8211; even if Palin were to take McCain&#8217;s place (though I still the likelihood of this is low) I feel she would, at that time, have sufficient experience to take the wheel for a bit.  I certainly don&#8217;t have enough grievances with her to switch my vote, given the alternative.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sylwia hardman</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-8884</link>
		<dc:creator>sylwia hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8884</guid>
		<description>I think a presidency with sarah palin with have as much negative impact on our culture as the philandering bill clinton.  bill clinton gave us the example that it is ok to be immoral and i think that has hurt our culture greatly.  sarah palin would give us the example that it&#039;s ok to have a demanding full time job when you have small children.  i know that even before these people held public office many people already believed or disbelieved these things.  but i still think it has an impact.  and both immorality and  encouraging working moms attacks the concept of the family and family roles.  The family is under attack and preserving the traditional family is of utmost importance.  it does not help our culture when the president or vice president gives us an example that destroys the concept of the traditional family.  that&#039;s why sarah palin would be bad for the country.  she would be a bad example. her success would further the idea that women can and should change the world in the workplace,  even if they have small children at home.  and that is not a good message in the last days when the family is under attack...

sylwia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a presidency with sarah palin with have as much negative impact on our culture as the philandering bill clinton.  bill clinton gave us the example that it is ok to be immoral and i think that has hurt our culture greatly.  sarah palin would give us the example that it&#8217;s ok to have a demanding full time job when you have small children.  i know that even before these people held public office many people already believed or disbelieved these things.  but i still think it has an impact.  and both immorality and  encouraging working moms attacks the concept of the family and family roles.  The family is under attack and preserving the traditional family is of utmost importance.  it does not help our culture when the president or vice president gives us an example that destroys the concept of the traditional family.  that&#8217;s why sarah palin would be bad for the country.  she would be a bad example. her success would further the idea that women can and should change the world in the workplace,  even if they have small children at home.  and that is not a good message in the last days when the family is under attack&#8230;</p>
<p>sylwia</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nedwilliams</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-3/#comment-8849</link>
		<dc:creator>nedwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8849</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m still around, and I appreciate your follow-up comments Beth.  And I have to admit I was a little acerbic in light of what I perceived were outlandish assertions--in the context of this campaign and these candidates, about Palin&#039;s qualifications.  You didn&#039;t appear to be &quot;still thinking about it.&quot;

Thanks for the discussion Jane.

nedwilliamss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/did-someone-say-equal-time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Did someone say &quot;equal time&quot;?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still around, and I appreciate your follow-up comments Beth.  And I have to admit I was a little acerbic in light of what I perceived were outlandish assertions&#8211;in the context of this campaign and these candidates, about Palin&#8217;s qualifications.  You didn&#8217;t appear to be &#8220;still thinking about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion Jane.</p>
<p>nedwilliamss last blog post..<a href="http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/did-someone-say-equal-time.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com');">Did someone say &quot;equal time&quot;?</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lauren Horsley</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8827</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Horsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8827</guid>
		<description>Sorry to stray a bit from the topic, but this belief has a huge impact on my choice for President.  I&#039;m not a warmonger and I feel strongly that many other options should be tried in an attempt for peace before we resort to violence.  But the world is what it is.  And I want a leader that has the experience to use all the tools at his access and then know when force is necessary.  This is one of the main reasons that I have been a McCain supporter from the get-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to stray a bit from the topic, but this belief has a huge impact on my choice for President.  I&#8217;m not a warmonger and I feel strongly that many other options should be tried in an attempt for peace before we resort to violence.  But the world is what it is.  And I want a leader that has the experience to use all the tools at his access and then know when force is necessary.  This is one of the main reasons that I have been a McCain supporter from the get-go.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lauren Horsley</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8826</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Horsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8826</guid>
		<description>Beth, with all due respect, that day is not coming.  As long as God gives man the free-agency to choose there will always be those who choose to exercise power and control over others.  And as long as those people exist, there will always be good people unwilling to sit by at let that happen.
Your hope is a lovely one, but completely unrealistic.  It&#039;s that sort of mindframe that kept the US out of the second World War for so long, which puts at least a little of the Holocaust blood on our hands.  We sat around while they died.  More currently, it&#039;s the same attitude that kept us out of Darfur for so long.  And we continue to sit on our thumbs while Tibet has been getting the crap kicked out of it.  
There will always be people abusing their free-agency in the world.  And if we ignore it under the pretty phrase of &quot;Give Peace A Chance&quot; we take partial responsibility for not sticking up for what we know is right.  We can also expect it to come knocking on our door someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, with all due respect, that day is not coming.  As long as God gives man the free-agency to choose there will always be those who choose to exercise power and control over others.  And as long as those people exist, there will always be good people unwilling to sit by at let that happen.<br />
Your hope is a lovely one, but completely unrealistic.  It&#8217;s that sort of mindframe that kept the US out of the second World War for so long, which puts at least a little of the Holocaust blood on our hands.  We sat around while they died.  More currently, it&#8217;s the same attitude that kept us out of Darfur for so long.  And we continue to sit on our thumbs while Tibet has been getting the crap kicked out of it.<br />
There will always be people abusing their free-agency in the world.  And if we ignore it under the pretty phrase of &#8220;Give Peace A Chance&#8221; we take partial responsibility for not sticking up for what we know is right.  We can also expect it to come knocking on our door someday.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8762</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8762</guid>
		<description>WOW!!!!  I can&#039;t believe this conversation is still going.  I stopped by this site to read what NEW things Jane had written and saw there were 37 comments on this topic.  I just had to check them out.

If Ned is still keeping up with this debate, please know, I&#039;m not offended. I think it&#039;s kind of funny that you called me &quot;wonky.&quot;  I thought my sarcasim showed I was taking it with a grain of salt.  Sorry that I seemed mad.  And I suppose I do feel a strong sense of entitlement where this Country is concerned.  A high price has been paid for the right to freely express our opinions.  All of us are entitled because of what others have done for us.  And I&#039;m terribly proud of the fact that people in my family have been willing to spill their blood for my freedom, and yours, for over 200 years.  And every military family member should be equally proud. 
 
I have the right to my opinion and you have the right to yours.  But, I fully state that I&#039;m not certain about mine.  I write that I&#039;m still thinking about it.  How is that so outrageous.  And if along the way I wonder about a point or two that other&#039;s think is laughable, that&#039;s okay.  I&#039;m not &quot;on the left.&quot;  I&#039;m in center.  

It&#039;s great that Sarah Palin has zapped this election to life. I just hope all Americans can share their opinions and positions without fear of being told they are stupid, or being labled, or being told their ideas are way out there.  

As a Mom- I&#039;m reminded of something on Sesame Street - &quot;You do it your way, and I&#039;ll do it mine.  Keep that funky rhythm and we&#039;ll both be fine.&quot;  ha. :)

I&#039;m just looking forward to the day that the lions lay down with the lambs, and we&#039;re a good world.  I just want leaders that will help bring that about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!!!  I can&#8217;t believe this conversation is still going.  I stopped by this site to read what NEW things Jane had written and saw there were 37 comments on this topic.  I just had to check them out.</p>
<p>If Ned is still keeping up with this debate, please know, I&#8217;m not offended. I think it&#8217;s kind of funny that you called me &#8220;wonky.&#8221;  I thought my sarcasim showed I was taking it with a grain of salt.  Sorry that I seemed mad.  And I suppose I do feel a strong sense of entitlement where this Country is concerned.  A high price has been paid for the right to freely express our opinions.  All of us are entitled because of what others have done for us.  And I&#8217;m terribly proud of the fact that people in my family have been willing to spill their blood for my freedom, and yours, for over 200 years.  And every military family member should be equally proud. </p>
<p>I have the right to my opinion and you have the right to yours.  But, I fully state that I&#8217;m not certain about mine.  I write that I&#8217;m still thinking about it.  How is that so outrageous.  And if along the way I wonder about a point or two that other&#8217;s think is laughable, that&#8217;s okay.  I&#8217;m not &#8220;on the left.&#8221;  I&#8217;m in center.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that Sarah Palin has zapped this election to life. I just hope all Americans can share their opinions and positions without fear of being told they are stupid, or being labled, or being told their ideas are way out there.  </p>
<p>As a Mom- I&#8217;m reminded of something on Sesame Street &#8211; &#8220;You do it your way, and I&#8217;ll do it mine.  Keep that funky rhythm and we&#8217;ll both be fine.&#8221;  ha. <img src='http://www.seagullfountain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just looking forward to the day that the lions lay down with the lambs, and we&#8217;re a good world.  I just want leaders that will help bring that about.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jen @ JenuineJen</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8755</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen @ JenuineJen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8755</guid>
		<description>For the record and to be upfront, I am pro-McCain-Palin.  I am one of the political activisits that do things like make phone calls, stuff envelopes, go door-to-door, etc.  In other words, I am a wierdo.  :-)

I think that each of us are given special skills, abilities, and talents.  It is up to the individual to decide how to use the talents and whether or not the person will use the talents, skills, and abilities to the best of their ability.  I am so proud that we live in a country today that regardless of race and sex, we are going to select the candidate we agree with most.  It seems to me all of the candidates, McCain and Obama, Palin and Biden have used their God-given talents to the best of their abilities in their lives.  Imagine how the wastefulness of someone with had Sarah Palin&#039;s talents and abilities not to use them to their fullest.  She does have to make sacrifices and choices, as we all do.  Luckily, she has a family support system to make those choices easier on her.

As for being back to work 1 day after giving birth to Piper and 3 days after giving birth to Trig, Gov. Palin makes me look like a wimp in this respect.  Since I had twins and a c-section, I was certainly not ready to be back to anything resemlbing my normal life after our children were born.  Still, these were her fourth and fifth children.  I do not know for certain but I imagine she was not right back at work after giving birth to her first child.  So, hopefully I am not a complete wimp.

Finally, as for what the Veep does, it is an important role.  Even if the Vice President does not (and hopefully will not) fill the unexpired term of the President.  If a vote in the Senate is tied, the Vice President can let the tie stand or break the tie.  While votes are not ususally that close, it has happened in the past 8 years and it winds up being a powerful tool the Vice President has.  My point is, while the President is the most important role, looking at the Vice President&#039;s values and policies is an important debate to engage.

Jen @ JenuineJens last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jenuinejen.com/2008/09/04/palin-cartoon/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palin Cartoon&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record and to be upfront, I am pro-McCain-Palin.  I am one of the political activisits that do things like make phone calls, stuff envelopes, go door-to-door, etc.  In other words, I am a wierdo.  <img src='http://www.seagullfountain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think that each of us are given special skills, abilities, and talents.  It is up to the individual to decide how to use the talents and whether or not the person will use the talents, skills, and abilities to the best of their ability.  I am so proud that we live in a country today that regardless of race and sex, we are going to select the candidate we agree with most.  It seems to me all of the candidates, McCain and Obama, Palin and Biden have used their God-given talents to the best of their abilities in their lives.  Imagine how the wastefulness of someone with had Sarah Palin&#8217;s talents and abilities not to use them to their fullest.  She does have to make sacrifices and choices, as we all do.  Luckily, she has a family support system to make those choices easier on her.</p>
<p>As for being back to work 1 day after giving birth to Piper and 3 days after giving birth to Trig, Gov. Palin makes me look like a wimp in this respect.  Since I had twins and a c-section, I was certainly not ready to be back to anything resemlbing my normal life after our children were born.  Still, these were her fourth and fifth children.  I do not know for certain but I imagine she was not right back at work after giving birth to her first child.  So, hopefully I am not a complete wimp.</p>
<p>Finally, as for what the Veep does, it is an important role.  Even if the Vice President does not (and hopefully will not) fill the unexpired term of the President.  If a vote in the Senate is tied, the Vice President can let the tie stand or break the tie.  While votes are not ususally that close, it has happened in the past 8 years and it winds up being a powerful tool the Vice President has.  My point is, while the President is the most important role, looking at the Vice President&#8217;s values and policies is an important debate to engage.</p>
<p>Jen @ JenuineJens last blog post..<a href="http://jenuinejen.com/2008/09/04/palin-cartoon/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/jenuinejen.com');">Palin Cartoon</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nedwilliams</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8709</link>
		<dc:creator>nedwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8709</guid>
		<description>Beth,
Regarding that 1 in 3 VPs factoid . . . the significance of it is greatly diminished when one considers that (I just wiki&#039;d it) only 1 in 5 were not &lt;i&gt;elected&lt;/i&gt; after having served as VP for at least one term, and the others (5 out of those VP&#039;s) became president following an assassination or impeachment, and usually after they had served for a significant amount of time.  Which means that Palin--after a single term, would be as old and more &quot;experienced&quot; than Obama is now, if she were to succeed McCain as president.  Palin&#039;s plenty qualified to be Vice President.

nedwilliamss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/could-they-do-it-again.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Could they do it again?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth,<br />
Regarding that 1 in 3 VPs factoid . . . the significance of it is greatly diminished when one considers that (I just wiki&#8217;d it) only 1 in 5 were not <i>elected</i> after having served as VP for at least one term, and the others (5 out of those VP&#8217;s) became president following an assassination or impeachment, and usually after they had served for a significant amount of time.  Which means that Palin&#8211;after a single term, would be as old and more &#8220;experienced&#8221; than Obama is now, if she were to succeed McCain as president.  Palin&#8217;s plenty qualified to be Vice President.</p>
<p>nedwilliamss last blog post..<a href="http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/could-they-do-it-again.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com');">Could they do it again?</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nedwilliams</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8708</link>
		<dc:creator>nedwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8708</guid>
		<description>Well Beth, I don&#039;t think you understand the term &quot;wonky,&quot; but feel free to take offense.  And I still am wondering how you can so definitively assert that Palin is unacceptable to you based on her age and lack of accomplishments and purported flip-flopping and tax-raising-propensity while considering Obama to be any better.  

And, yes, you&#039;re entitled to your opinion, but you&#039;re not entitled to unquestioning acceptance of it no matter how long your family has lived here or how many of them served in the military, right?

Jane,
Regrettably, as Beth experienced and as many on the Left have encouraged, spite for (and demagoguery of) Dubya in the States by his political opponents has fomented spite for America (under the Bush administration) in other countries--especially Old Europe . . . it is certainly cool or hip to oppose Bush&#039;s America.  The guy&#039;s a war criminal for heaven&#039;s sake not to mention he&#039;s raping the environment and shredding the Constitution by listening to phone conversations that Jihadists in other countries might be having with people in the U.S.

nedwilliamss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/could-they-do-it-again.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Could they do it again?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Beth, I don&#8217;t think you understand the term &#8220;wonky,&#8221; but feel free to take offense.  And I still am wondering how you can so definitively assert that Palin is unacceptable to you based on her age and lack of accomplishments and purported flip-flopping and tax-raising-propensity while considering Obama to be any better.  </p>
<p>And, yes, you&#8217;re entitled to your opinion, but you&#8217;re not entitled to unquestioning acceptance of it no matter how long your family has lived here or how many of them served in the military, right?</p>
<p>Jane,<br />
Regrettably, as Beth experienced and as many on the Left have encouraged, spite for (and demagoguery of) Dubya in the States by his political opponents has fomented spite for America (under the Bush administration) in other countries&#8211;especially Old Europe . . . it is certainly cool or hip to oppose Bush&#8217;s America.  The guy&#8217;s a war criminal for heaven&#8217;s sake not to mention he&#8217;s raping the environment and shredding the Constitution by listening to phone conversations that Jihadists in other countries might be having with people in the U.S.</p>
<p>nedwilliamss last blog post..<a href="http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/could-they-do-it-again.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com');">Could they do it again?</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sarah Palin &#171; Not Finished Yet</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8706</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin &#171; Not Finished Yet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8706</guid>
		<description>[...] September 6, 2008 in culture &#124; Tags: Bristol Palin, John McCain, Politics, Sarah Palin &#124;    Ahh, Sarah Palin.  Such a short time (most of) America has known about her, but what a difference she&#8217;s already made!  I think she was a great choice for all the good conservative reasons, but there is one thing I wonder about.  She&#8217;s got a four month old special-needs child.  She&#8217;s the only mother that child will ever have.  By running for VP, is she putting that baby&#8217;s needs second to that of the campaign?  I know, I know, if she were a man, no one would ever ask this of her.  So maybe I&#8217;m a little sexist.  But I think about how much energy and effort I have put in to bond and attach with both of my daughters, and while I know that&#8217;s partially my personality, I wonder if a woman can effectively do bond and attach with their child while running for major office.  I&#8217;m not looking at this from a theological standpoint or anything, but purely from the view of the mother-child relationship.  One of the blogs that I read talked about this topic similarly here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] September 6, 2008 in culture | Tags: Bristol Palin, John McCain, Politics, Sarah Palin |    Ahh, Sarah Palin.  Such a short time (most of) America has known about her, but what a difference she&#8217;s already made!  I think she was a great choice for all the good conservative reasons, but there is one thing I wonder about.  She&#8217;s got a four month old special-needs child.  She&#8217;s the only mother that child will ever have.  By running for VP, is she putting that baby&#8217;s needs second to that of the campaign?  I know, I know, if she were a man, no one would ever ask this of her.  So maybe I&#8217;m a little sexist.  But I think about how much energy and effort I have put in to bond and attach with both of my daughters, and while I know that&#8217;s partially my personality, I wonder if a woman can effectively do bond and attach with their child while running for major office.  I&#8217;m not looking at this from a theological standpoint or anything, but purely from the view of the mother-child relationship.  One of the blogs that I read talked about this topic similarly here. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8687</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8687</guid>
		<description>nedwilliams -- Yes -- people&#039;s inability to live up to ideals is no reason to give up on them (this is a big argument for not giving up on  abstinence education, no?). 

I get what you&#039;re saying about character qualities versus political ideas (I&#039;ll leave off the &quot;wonky&quot;), but I think that though we can agree on what kind of character we&#039;d like our president to have, it&#039;s almost impossible, without being able to sit on the front porch with them (or work in the kitchen with them, which is what I&#039;d like to do), to gauge for ourselves what their true character is through the opaque lens of image consultants and media reporting.

This is why we&#039;re always so surprised when iconic leaders turn out to have clay feet, I think. And it probably points out why &quot;likeability&quot; is such a desirable quality for a candidate to have, and yet probably not very indicative of how good a leader they will be. 

Anyway. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

Beth -- I was in Cairo with my husband and daughter for 2 years, including during the start of the current Iraq war in 2003. It was indeed interesting to be outside the U.S. while U.S. actions are occupying everyone&#039;s attention.

I guess I don&#039;t really understand why Europe would be so in love with Obama (while hating America, as you relate), but then I don&#039;t understand a lot about European politics.

I certainly do want my site to be a place where people&#039;s feelings and thoughts can be expressed without name-calling or harsh remarks. I&#039;m hoping you weren&#039;t too offended, and I appreciate your responding with humor.

---

If I (or anyone else) had to be an &quot;expert&quot; before expressing an opinion, participation in our democracy would be very, very limited.

---

Lauren -- I read somewhere that 1 in 3 VPs step into the presidency. While that seems high, it is something to keep in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nedwilliams &#8212; Yes &#8212; people&#8217;s inability to live up to ideals is no reason to give up on them (this is a big argument for not giving up on  abstinence education, no?). </p>
<p>I get what you&#8217;re saying about character qualities versus political ideas (I&#8217;ll leave off the &#8220;wonky&#8221;), but I think that though we can agree on what kind of character we&#8217;d like our president to have, it&#8217;s almost impossible, without being able to sit on the front porch with them (or work in the kitchen with them, which is what I&#8217;d like to do), to gauge for ourselves what their true character is through the opaque lens of image consultants and media reporting.</p>
<p>This is why we&#8217;re always so surprised when iconic leaders turn out to have clay feet, I think. And it probably points out why &#8220;likeability&#8221; is such a desirable quality for a candidate to have, and yet probably not very indicative of how good a leader they will be. </p>
<p>Anyway. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.</p>
<p>Beth &#8212; I was in Cairo with my husband and daughter for 2 years, including during the start of the current Iraq war in 2003. It was indeed interesting to be outside the U.S. while U.S. actions are occupying everyone&#8217;s attention.</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t really understand why Europe would be so in love with Obama (while hating America, as you relate), but then I don&#8217;t understand a lot about European politics.</p>
<p>I certainly do want my site to be a place where people&#8217;s feelings and thoughts can be expressed without name-calling or harsh remarks. I&#8217;m hoping you weren&#8217;t too offended, and I appreciate your responding with humor.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>If I (or anyone else) had to be an &#8220;expert&#8221; before expressing an opinion, participation in our democracy would be very, very limited.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Lauren &#8212; I read somewhere that 1 in 3 VPs step into the presidency. While that seems high, it is something to keep in mind.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lauren Horsley</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8666</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Horsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8666</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m totally new here and it&#039;s 2 am so I&#039;ll make this short.

The VP is essentially a figurehead.  They do a lot of international relations PR and aid the Prez. in some basic duties but stewing about what her &quot;working mom&quot; choice will mean in regards to policies for our country seems a bit intense.  She&#039;ll give lots of lovely speeches and maybe even start a friendly national program or two, but she won&#039;t make a single critical decision.  

I just hate to see us spend too much time on her and take the spotlight away from the two men that are fighting for the presidency.  They&#039;re the ones we should be worried about.

Lauren Horsleys last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://horsleyfam.blogspot.com/2008/08/3-am.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3 am&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m totally new here and it&#8217;s 2 am so I&#8217;ll make this short.</p>
<p>The VP is essentially a figurehead.  They do a lot of international relations PR and aid the Prez. in some basic duties but stewing about what her &#8220;working mom&#8221; choice will mean in regards to policies for our country seems a bit intense.  She&#8217;ll give lots of lovely speeches and maybe even start a friendly national program or two, but she won&#8217;t make a single critical decision.  </p>
<p>I just hate to see us spend too much time on her and take the spotlight away from the two men that are fighting for the presidency.  They&#8217;re the ones we should be worried about.</p>
<p>Lauren Horsleys last blog post..<a href="http://horsleyfam.blogspot.com/2008/08/3-am.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/horsleyfam.blogspot.com');">3 am</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8546</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8546</guid>
		<description>Re:  Ned&#039;s remarks about my ideas being &quot;wonky&quot; vs. things Palin said in her speech last night- playing fair on a site like this usually means refraining from insulting others opinions or name calling.  Public policy isn&#039;t being written here.  We&#039;re writing our feelings and opinions.  My &quot;wonky ideas&quot; come from a back-ground member of a family which came to this land in 1646, and has fought to defend it in every single war, since the Revolution.  My &quot;wonky ideas&quot; come from being able to travel the world, and the nation, all my life. I don&#039;t just hear about what other people in the world are going through, I see it first hand.  And I&#039;ve been blessed to do this.  If I didn&#039;t go into elaborate detail in describing just exactly why, at this time, it&#039;s hard to have people scream &quot;F--- Americans&quot; in one breath, and then, &quot;Go Obama!!&quot; in the next, is disconserting- I&#039;m sorry.  And if I failed to explain what it was like to walk through some of the major cities in the EU and see their public works system isn&#039;t nearly as wonderful as ours, and to be thankful to be American right now, and fearful of us ever adopting certain social policies that could lead us into the same circumstances- I&#039;m again- sorry.  I guess you&#039;d just have to see things from my perspective to understand how remarkable it was to be thousands of miles away from America, despised for being American, and yet have a candidate for the President so admired- time and again.  And then, to read that Obama spoke to 200,000 German Citizens - but didn&#039;t visit the troops stationed there- was also very upsetting.  I&#039;m sorry if that is &quot;wonky.&quot;

But, it&#039;s still difficult to know just who will be best for our nation.  Just because I have never encountered this kind of fever for one of our politicians when overseas, doesn&#039;t mean that he&#039;d be a terrible President.  And- whether &quot;Ned&quot; likes my personal opinion or not- I have the right to it.  And Palin does not impress me.  And I have the right to say so- thanks to the many, many members of my family that fought for that right.  

McCain gave a good speech tonight.  - By the by- as a side note- my hubby told me last night he read that the odds makers in Vegas are taking bets that McCain will dump Palin before election day.  If that terrible story mentioned earlier on this page that is flying wildly around the net- that Bristol is Trig&#039;s Mom- somehow is true (young Mothers DO have a high rate of Downs babies- it&#039;s not just older Mom&#039;s) it won&#039;t be good.  It&#039;s a wild story and I&#039;m not hearing it from the mainstream news at all- which is good.  Still, aren&#039;t we all TIRED of our politicians being so busy dealing with scandal that they can&#039;t get anything accomplished.  I really want someone with as few skelatons in their closet as possible.  But, what do I know?  I&#039;m just a &quot;wonky&quot; person. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  Ned&#8217;s remarks about my ideas being &#8220;wonky&#8221; vs. things Palin said in her speech last night- playing fair on a site like this usually means refraining from insulting others opinions or name calling.  Public policy isn&#8217;t being written here.  We&#8217;re writing our feelings and opinions.  My &#8220;wonky ideas&#8221; come from a back-ground member of a family which came to this land in 1646, and has fought to defend it in every single war, since the Revolution.  My &#8220;wonky ideas&#8221; come from being able to travel the world, and the nation, all my life. I don&#8217;t just hear about what other people in the world are going through, I see it first hand.  And I&#8217;ve been blessed to do this.  If I didn&#8217;t go into elaborate detail in describing just exactly why, at this time, it&#8217;s hard to have people scream &#8220;F&#8212; Americans&#8221; in one breath, and then, &#8220;Go Obama!!&#8221; in the next, is disconserting- I&#8217;m sorry.  And if I failed to explain what it was like to walk through some of the major cities in the EU and see their public works system isn&#8217;t nearly as wonderful as ours, and to be thankful to be American right now, and fearful of us ever adopting certain social policies that could lead us into the same circumstances- I&#8217;m again- sorry.  I guess you&#8217;d just have to see things from my perspective to understand how remarkable it was to be thousands of miles away from America, despised for being American, and yet have a candidate for the President so admired- time and again.  And then, to read that Obama spoke to 200,000 German Citizens &#8211; but didn&#8217;t visit the troops stationed there- was also very upsetting.  I&#8217;m sorry if that is &#8220;wonky.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, it&#8217;s still difficult to know just who will be best for our nation.  Just because I have never encountered this kind of fever for one of our politicians when overseas, doesn&#8217;t mean that he&#8217;d be a terrible President.  And- whether &#8220;Ned&#8221; likes my personal opinion or not- I have the right to it.  And Palin does not impress me.  And I have the right to say so- thanks to the many, many members of my family that fought for that right.  </p>
<p>McCain gave a good speech tonight.  &#8211; By the by- as a side note- my hubby told me last night he read that the odds makers in Vegas are taking bets that McCain will dump Palin before election day.  If that terrible story mentioned earlier on this page that is flying wildly around the net- that Bristol is Trig&#8217;s Mom- somehow is true (young Mothers DO have a high rate of Downs babies- it&#8217;s not just older Mom&#8217;s) it won&#8217;t be good.  It&#8217;s a wild story and I&#8217;m not hearing it from the mainstream news at all- which is good.  Still, aren&#8217;t we all TIRED of our politicians being so busy dealing with scandal that they can&#8217;t get anything accomplished.  I really want someone with as few skelatons in their closet as possible.  But, what do I know?  I&#8217;m just a &#8220;wonky&#8221; person. <img src='http://www.seagullfountain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nedwilliams</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/09/02/can-a-stay-at-home-mom-be-pro-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-8536</link>
		<dc:creator>nedwilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.seagullfountain.com/?p=1644#comment-8536</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The MOST alarming things about Palin is her age, her lack of experience, and the other things on her record- like the fact that she raised taxes while in office and she’s flip flopped on some key issues in her region- like the “bridge to nowhere.”&lt;/i&gt;

Beth, 
Are you pulling our leg?  Given Obama&#039;s resume and age, it&#039;s hard to believe you&#039;re being serious.

Jane,
You wrote, &lt;i&gt;the “family values” party doesn’t really live up to it in their private lives&lt;/i&gt;, but to reiterate, won&#039;t you agree that just because a person or a party doesn&#039;t live up to stated ideals is no reason to jettison the ideals?  I&#039;ll concede that moralizing is another issue, but Democrats and Liberals are just as moralistic--though on different issues, as Republicans purportedly are.

I think a discussion of abortion or homosexual marriage is better left to another thread, but any argument comes down to a given person&#039;s premises/assumptions and their accepted authorities.

Regarding the question you posed, I think a political party almost invariably plays to its candidate&#039;s &quot;strengths,&quot; and what is a &quot;strength&quot; is affected by the political landscape (usually ascertained by polling) and even by the perceived strengths or weaknesses of said candidate&#039;s opponent.  That being said, I think most people would agree with the line Palin has uttered a couple of times about the importance that an elected official govern with &quot;integrity, good will, clear convictions, and ... a servant&#039;s heart.&quot;  Those are all character qualities rather than wonky ideas like Beth references.

nedwilliamss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-miss-congenial-warrior.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palin:  Miss Congenial Warrior&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The MOST alarming things about Palin is her age, her lack of experience, and the other things on her record- like the fact that she raised taxes while in office and she’s flip flopped on some key issues in her region- like the “bridge to nowhere.”</i></p>
<p>Beth,<br />
Are you pulling our leg?  Given Obama&#8217;s resume and age, it&#8217;s hard to believe you&#8217;re being serious.</p>
<p>Jane,<br />
You wrote, <i>the “family values” party doesn’t really live up to it in their private lives</i>, but to reiterate, won&#8217;t you agree that just because a person or a party doesn&#8217;t live up to stated ideals is no reason to jettison the ideals?  I&#8217;ll concede that moralizing is another issue, but Democrats and Liberals are just as moralistic&#8211;though on different issues, as Republicans purportedly are.</p>
<p>I think a discussion of abortion or homosexual marriage is better left to another thread, but any argument comes down to a given person&#8217;s premises/assumptions and their accepted authorities.</p>
<p>Regarding the question you posed, I think a political party almost invariably plays to its candidate&#8217;s &#8220;strengths,&#8221; and what is a &#8220;strength&#8221; is affected by the political landscape (usually ascertained by polling) and even by the perceived strengths or weaknesses of said candidate&#8217;s opponent.  That being said, I think most people would agree with the line Palin has uttered a couple of times about the importance that an elected official govern with &#8220;integrity, good will, clear convictions, and &#8230; a servant&#8217;s heart.&#8221;  Those are all character qualities rather than wonky ideas like Beth references.</p>
<p>nedwilliamss last blog post..<a href="http://wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-miss-congenial-warrior.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/wisdomisvindicated.blogspot.com');">Palin:  Miss Congenial Warrior</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
