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	<title>Comments on: Miley Cyrus: &#8220;You&#8217;re the grown up; you&#8217;re supposed to tell me what to do!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 14:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At four my daughter has no idea about Hannah Montana so we haven&#039;t had to have a discussion about this.   I like the way you approached the topic.  I think that you&#039;re correct in saying the the girl and her family all have responsibility and it could have been a good teaching moment.  I also like your examples with the Disney princess&#039; clothing choices.  
Teaching responsibility and accountability for your actions is so important.  Any time can be a teaching moment if you choose to use it to explore it and teach a better behavior or response!

&lt;em&gt;Jill&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://lifewithnaturegirl.blogspot.com/2008/05/recipe-box-swap.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recipe Box Swap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At four my daughter has no idea about Hannah Montana so we haven&#8217;t had to have a discussion about this.   I like the way you approached the topic.  I think that you&#8217;re correct in saying the the girl and her family all have responsibility and it could have been a good teaching moment.  I also like your examples with the Disney princess&#8217; clothing choices.<br />
Teaching responsibility and accountability for your actions is so important.  Any time can be a teaching moment if you choose to use it to explore it and teach a better behavior or response!</p>
<p><em>Jill&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://lifewithnaturegirl.blogspot.com/2008/05/recipe-box-swap.html' rel="nofollow">Recipe Box Swap</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Adrianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this reminded me of my own experiences with modesty growing up.  My dad used to make up kneel down to see if our skirts touched the floor....no joke.  Also, we weren&#039;t allowed to wear tank tops or sleevless shirts unless we were coming inside from swimming or washing the car or something along those lines and then we had to immediately go put a shirt on.  We were allowed to wear the uniforms for cross country (very short shorts and tank tops) and dance costumes for dance.  Other than that, modesty was a big deal in our family.

&lt;em&gt;Adrianne&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://mikenadrianne.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-do-you-think.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What do you think?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this reminded me of my own experiences with modesty growing up.  My dad used to make up kneel down to see if our skirts touched the floor&#8230;.no joke.  Also, we weren&#8217;t allowed to wear tank tops or sleevless shirts unless we were coming inside from swimming or washing the car or something along those lines and then we had to immediately go put a shirt on.  We were allowed to wear the uniforms for cross country (very short shorts and tank tops) and dance costumes for dance.  Other than that, modesty was a big deal in our family.</p>
<p><em>Adrianne&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://mikenadrianne.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-do-you-think.html' rel="nofollow">What do you think?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Memarie Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.seagullfountain.com/2008/04/28/miley-cyrus/comment-page-1/#comment-5054</link>
		<dc:creator>Memarie Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane- saw this recipe and thought of you. I&#039;m making it this weekend.

http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2008/02/apple_dumplings/

&lt;em&gt;Memarie Lane&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MemarieLane/~3/280457920/cream-puffs.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cream Puffs!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane- saw this recipe and thought of you. I&#8217;m making it this weekend.</p>
<p><a href="http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2008/02/apple_dumplings/" rel="nofollow">http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2008/02/apple_dumplings/</a></p>
<p><em>Memarie Lane&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MemarieLane/~3/280457920/cream-puffs.html' rel="nofollow">Cream Puffs!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the mama bird diaries -- 

You&#039;re absolutely right that modesty is highly relative and dependent also on context. I wanted to say something in my post about this, but I had already gone on pretty long.

When we lived in Cairo, I was always the most immodest person around, by far, except when we were only with other expats, and even then, I wore capris and short sleeves. Some expats are more respectful of the culture than that, and tourists are usually much less respectful. 

When we lived in Florida, I was usually the most modest person around -- even at the beach, there&#039;s a wide range of attire (in Egypt I saw women &#039;swim&#039; in the Med Sea and Red Sea in full clothing, including head scarves).

So every family, and then every person has to decide what level of modesty is appropriate for them, and then stick with it. And, of course (as evident from nude resorts and topless beaches, etc), some people think the entire concept of modesty is old-fashioned, repressed, naive, un-loving-of-our-bodies, etc. 

Most mothers I know do feel that modesty is important, even if we all interpret what &quot;modest&quot; means differently.

What I object to in this whole brouhaha is that I think that the Cyrus family, in their promotion of themselves as family-friendly (her audience is heavily 6-11), and in Miley&#039;s supposed statements of embarrassment afterwards, and especially in her initial &quot;can&#039;t say no,&quot; indicates a disconnect between their own values and their own actions. 

(I hope) I&#039;m not trying to impose my own values on them, but I honestly feel like Miley/Billy Ray made a bad choice here (not) based on their own values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the mama bird diaries &#8212; </p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right that modesty is highly relative and dependent also on context. I wanted to say something in my post about this, but I had already gone on pretty long.</p>
<p>When we lived in Cairo, I was always the most immodest person around, by far, except when we were only with other expats, and even then, I wore capris and short sleeves. Some expats are more respectful of the culture than that, and tourists are usually much less respectful. </p>
<p>When we lived in Florida, I was usually the most modest person around &#8212; even at the beach, there&#8217;s a wide range of attire (in Egypt I saw women &#8216;swim&#8217; in the Med Sea and Red Sea in full clothing, including head scarves).</p>
<p>So every family, and then every person has to decide what level of modesty is appropriate for them, and then stick with it. And, of course (as evident from nude resorts and topless beaches, etc), some people think the entire concept of modesty is old-fashioned, repressed, naive, un-loving-of-our-bodies, etc. </p>
<p>Most mothers I know do feel that modesty is important, even if we all interpret what &#8220;modest&#8221; means differently.</p>
<p>What I object to in this whole brouhaha is that I think that the Cyrus family, in their promotion of themselves as family-friendly (her audience is heavily 6-11), and in Miley&#8217;s supposed statements of embarrassment afterwards, and especially in her initial &#8220;can&#8217;t say no,&#8221; indicates a disconnect between their own values and their own actions. </p>
<p>(I hope) I&#8217;m not trying to impose my own values on them, but I honestly feel like Miley/Billy Ray made a bad choice here (not) based on their own values.</p>
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		<title>By: the mama bird diaries</title>
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		<dc:creator>the mama bird diaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought the photo was quite beautiful. It wasn&#039;t nude or topless or disrespectful.  I&#039;m sure she has shown much more at the beach. Annie Liebovitz is an incredible photographer who just knows how to capture people&#039;s creativity, beauty and spirit.

But I totally understand why some people think it&#039;s an inappropriate photo of a 15 year-old. I get it. But I just don&#039;t get why this is all such a big friggin&#039; deal.

Great post. Your first line rocked. funny. :)

&lt;em&gt;the mama bird diaries&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.mamabirddiaries.com/?p=816&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it’s a girls town&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually thought the photo was quite beautiful. It wasn&#8217;t nude or topless or disrespectful.  I&#8217;m sure she has shown much more at the beach. Annie Liebovitz is an incredible photographer who just knows how to capture people&#8217;s creativity, beauty and spirit.</p>
<p>But I totally understand why some people think it&#8217;s an inappropriate photo of a 15 year-old. I get it. But I just don&#8217;t get why this is all such a big friggin&#8217; deal.</p>
<p>Great post. Your first line rocked. funny. <img src='http://www.seagullfountain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>the mama bird diaries&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.mamabirddiaries.com/?p=816' rel="nofollow">it’s a girls town</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Loraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool lesson plan. My youngest loves Hanna Montana- I personally don&#039;t see anything special about her at all. Or her dad- but then I can&#039;t stand country. I stand by the old joke: Two guys are standing before the firing squad, and are asked for their last requests. One says, &quot;I just want to hear Achy Breaky Heart one last time.&quot; The other guy says, &quot;Shoot me first.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Loraine&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://intracerebralitinerary.blogspot.com/2008/04/mmsm-still-trying-to-smile-after-sunday.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MMSM- still trying to smile after Sunday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool lesson plan. My youngest loves Hanna Montana- I personally don&#8217;t see anything special about her at all. Or her dad- but then I can&#8217;t stand country. I stand by the old joke: Two guys are standing before the firing squad, and are asked for their last requests. One says, &#8220;I just want to hear Achy Breaky Heart one last time.&#8221; The other guy says, &#8220;Shoot me first.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Loraine&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://intracerebralitinerary.blogspot.com/2008/04/mmsm-still-trying-to-smile-after-sunday.html' rel="nofollow">MMSM- still trying to smile after Sunday</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing the claims of &quot;artsy&quot; reminded me of was the scene in Titanic where Kate is nude for the artistic Leo. It&#039;s all very tasteful, of course, and, darling, it&#039;s ART. And then, two minutes later, it&#039;s Kate and Leo having sex in the back of a model T. 

A-R-T.

Marie -- love the &quot;hooker heels.&quot; Better than the alternative I&#039;ve heard, and nicely alliterative (or, as I read on a blog yesterday &quot;illiterative,&quot; which was highly appropriate for that blog). You&#039;re right, of course, that Miley has worn other skanky stuff, and I do think a 15 year old (esp. one in show business, I agree, Cynthia) bears quite a bit of responsibility for how she presents herself.

Danielle -- Good point on the editing adding to the inappropriateness of the image. I assume (knowing how risky that is) that Miley and her parents had veto power over the finished product. Of course she can wear whatever she wants, but she can&#039;t be a role model for my kids if she chooses to undress in public. I mean, unless they start doing surgery in the streets or something. 

Tara -- read &lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/travel/27nude.html?scp=1&amp;sq=nude+travel&amp;st=nyt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an article&lt;/a&gt; yesterday about nude vacations, and you&#039;re right, we need to not go along with the new norm.

Tracey and LL -- totally agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing the claims of &#8220;artsy&#8221; reminded me of was the scene in Titanic where Kate is nude for the artistic Leo. It&#8217;s all very tasteful, of course, and, darling, it&#8217;s ART. And then, two minutes later, it&#8217;s Kate and Leo having sex in the back of a model T. </p>
<p>A-R-T.</p>
<p>Marie &#8212; love the &#8220;hooker heels.&#8221; Better than the alternative I&#8217;ve heard, and nicely alliterative (or, as I read on a blog yesterday &#8220;illiterative,&#8221; which was highly appropriate for that blog). You&#8217;re right, of course, that Miley has worn other skanky stuff, and I do think a 15 year old (esp. one in show business, I agree, Cynthia) bears quite a bit of responsibility for how she presents herself.</p>
<p>Danielle &#8212; Good point on the editing adding to the inappropriateness of the image. I assume (knowing how risky that is) that Miley and her parents had veto power over the finished product. Of course she can wear whatever she wants, but she can&#8217;t be a role model for my kids if she chooses to undress in public. I mean, unless they start doing surgery in the streets or something. </p>
<p>Tara &#8212; read <a href="http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/travel/27nude.html?scp=1&#038;sq=nude+travel&#038;st=nyt" rel="nofollow">an article</a> yesterday about nude vacations, and you&#8217;re right, we need to not go along with the new norm.</p>
<p>Tracey and LL &#8212; totally agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the concert tickets were being fought over for unimaginable prices - parents were scrambling to pay 1100 -  cyruses intent spoke loudest - and yet no one listens. Money. Miley is savvy, she&#039;s not 15 in spirit - she&#039;s a product. A product has to have a life-cycle. All Miley and her entourage are doing is preparing  her for her next phase in product promotion...the sexy almost woman. Can you think of any other  young women who weathered the wrath of a not so fading fan base to move on up to the big time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the concert tickets were being fought over for unimaginable prices &#8211; parents were scrambling to pay 1100 &#8211;  cyruses intent spoke loudest &#8211; and yet no one listens. Money. Miley is savvy, she&#8217;s not 15 in spirit &#8211; she&#8217;s a product. A product has to have a life-cycle. All Miley and her entourage are doing is preparing  her for her next phase in product promotion&#8230;the sexy almost woman. Can you think of any other  young women who weathered the wrath of a not so fading fan base to move on up to the big time?</p>
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		<title>By: tarable</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What 15 year &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; innocent these days?  But isn&#039;t that why parents are supposed to have veto power until they&#039;re 18?  It&#039;s sad Miley and her Dad went along with this - but not suprising, just more proof of what our society is turning into.  I think the best part is the outrage on some parts - we need people who will not go along with the new norm.

&lt;em&gt;tarable&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TaraThinks/~3/280100910/dirty-yourself-clean.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dirty Yourself Clean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What 15 year <i>is</i> innocent these days?  But isn&#8217;t that why parents are supposed to have veto power until they&#8217;re 18?  It&#8217;s sad Miley and her Dad went along with this &#8211; but not suprising, just more proof of what our society is turning into.  I think the best part is the outrage on some parts &#8211; we need people who will not go along with the new norm.</p>
<p><em>tarable&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TaraThinks/~3/280100910/dirty-yourself-clean.html' rel="nofollow">Dirty Yourself Clean</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Memarie Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Memarie Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check these out:

http://perezhilton.com/2008-04-21-fill-in-the-blank-146

http://perezhilton.com/2008-01-25-real-or-photoshop

She also tends to dress very provocatively when making public appearances, in micro-minis and hooker heels and such.

&lt;em&gt;Memarie Lane&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MemarieLane/~3/279767349/some-helpful-diagrams-for-pregnant.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some helpful diagrams for pregnant women&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check these out:</p>
<p><a href="http://perezhilton.com/2008-04-21-fill-in-the-blank-146" rel="nofollow">http://perezhilton.com/2008-04-21-fill-in-the-blank-146</a></p>
<p><a href="http://perezhilton.com/2008-01-25-real-or-photoshop" rel="nofollow">http://perezhilton.com/2008-01-25-real-or-photoshop</a></p>
<p>She also tends to dress very provocatively when making public appearances, in micro-minis and hooker heels and such.</p>
<p><em>Memarie Lane&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MemarieLane/~3/279767349/some-helpful-diagrams-for-pregnant.html' rel="nofollow">Some helpful diagrams for pregnant women</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Memarie Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Memarie Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is, over the past couple of months, Miley has released her own private  pictures taken with a self-timer of herself showing her bra and such in provocative poses. She did those entirely on her own, so I really doubt she is as innocent as she claims.

&lt;em&gt;Memarie Lane&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MemarieLane/~3/279767349/some-helpful-diagrams-for-pregnant.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some helpful diagrams for pregnant women&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, over the past couple of months, Miley has released her own private  pictures taken with a self-timer of herself showing her bra and such in provocative poses. She did those entirely on her own, so I really doubt she is as innocent as she claims.</p>
<p><em>Memarie Lane&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MemarieLane/~3/279767349/some-helpful-diagrams-for-pregnant.html' rel="nofollow">Some helpful diagrams for pregnant women</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Danielle Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think its really that big of a deal. She wasn&#039;t really naked and was as covered as most people wearing a strapless dress, so whats the big deal? If you go to vanity fairs website, you can see a video of the photoshoot. If you look at how she was posing, she was outside in a field with a backdrop behind her. She was wearing jeans and had the satin fabric pinned around her. It seemed kinda innocent to me, but the editing, cropping and black and white made it look seductive. 

Anyway, I think any teenager would be thrilled to be in vanity fair and she probably assumed that they were doing the right thing and trusted them too much. Her parents probably weren&#039;t as attentive as they should have been, but they do a pretty good job with her otherwise. 

Anyway, I like your spin of what you can teach your girls about this situation. Thats a good way to look at it.

&lt;em&gt;Danielle Waters&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://liamryanwaters.blogspot.com/2008/04/maybe-these-are-just-funny-to-me.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maybe these are just funny to me.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think its really that big of a deal. She wasn&#8217;t really naked and was as covered as most people wearing a strapless dress, so whats the big deal? If you go to vanity fairs website, you can see a video of the photoshoot. If you look at how she was posing, she was outside in a field with a backdrop behind her. She was wearing jeans and had the satin fabric pinned around her. It seemed kinda innocent to me, but the editing, cropping and black and white made it look seductive. </p>
<p>Anyway, I think any teenager would be thrilled to be in vanity fair and she probably assumed that they were doing the right thing and trusted them too much. Her parents probably weren&#8217;t as attentive as they should have been, but they do a pretty good job with her otherwise. </p>
<p>Anyway, I like your spin of what you can teach your girls about this situation. Thats a good way to look at it.</p>
<p><em>Danielle Waters&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://liamryanwaters.blogspot.com/2008/04/maybe-these-are-just-funny-to-me.html' rel="nofollow">Maybe these are just funny to me.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Lady Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I was also uneasy about RIMD&#039;s post, putting all the blame on the parents and others, and none of the girl herself. Then again, it&#039;s very easy to adopt parents&#039; low standards.  That comes naturally.

&lt;em&gt;Lady Lyn&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://afterthehappilyever.blogspot.com/2008/04/pooh-honey.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pooh &amp; Honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I was also uneasy about RIMD&#8217;s post, putting all the blame on the parents and others, and none of the girl herself. Then again, it&#8217;s very easy to adopt parents&#8217; low standards.  That comes naturally.</p>
<p><em>Lady Lyn&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://afterthehappilyever.blogspot.com/2008/04/pooh-honey.html' rel="nofollow">Pooh &amp; Honey</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: tracey</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that it was even allowed... I haven&#039;t seen the photo, but I would assume that it&#039;s somewhat tasteful... for an ADULT. It&#039;s very disappointing that it was even allowed to come to this. I agree, that her parents could have used it as a learning moment on how to say no. Sad...

&lt;em&gt;tracey&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://tracey-justanothermommyblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/thousand-words.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A thousand words....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that it was even allowed&#8230; I haven&#8217;t seen the photo, but I would assume that it&#8217;s somewhat tasteful&#8230; for an ADULT. It&#8217;s very disappointing that it was even allowed to come to this. I agree, that her parents could have used it as a learning moment on how to say no. Sad&#8230;</p>
<p><em>tracey&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://tracey-justanothermommyblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/thousand-words.html' rel="nofollow">A thousand words&#8230;.</a></em></p>
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